Komunitas Praktisi, Intelektual Hukum Indonesia Tersaji Apik & Menarik
 
HomeCalendarFAQSearchMemberlistUsergroupsRegisterLog in

Share | 
 

 AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
PIKOLO
Legal Assistant
Legal Assistant


Posts : 126
Join date : 2012-02-08

PostSubject: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:42 am

TEMPO.CO, Subang Jaya - Niat pemerintah Indonesia memiliki mobil nasional tampaknya segera menjadi kenyataan. Hal ini terlihat dari penandatanganan nota kesepahaman yang dilakukan secara bilateral oleh Malaysia dan Indonesia.

Negeri Jiran mengusung pabrik mobil andalannya, Proton. Sedangkan Indonesia mengandalkan PT Adiperkasa Citra Lestari yang dimiliki oleh bekas Kepala Badan Intelijen Negara Abdullah Mahmud Hendropriyono.

Penandatanganan MoU dihadiri oleh Presiden Joko Widodo dan Perdana Menteri Najib Tun Razak; serta bos Proton, Mahathir Mohamad.

Surat perjanjian ditandatangani langsung oleh Hendropriyono dan CEO Proton Daruk Abdul Harith Abdullah di markas Proton. Selain pemimpin negara, Duta Besar Indonesia untuk Malaysia Herman Prayitno dan Duta Besar Malaysia untuk Indonesia Datuk Seri Zahrain Mohamed Hashim juga hadir.

Kunjungan dan jalinan kerja sama pembuatan mobil nasional ini termasuk dalam rangkaian jadwal Presiden Jokowi pada kunjungan kerja pertamanya ke Malaysia. Tidak hanya membuat mobil nasional, Presiden Jokowi juga berminat turut serta membuat mobil ASEAN.

Belum ada informasi lebih lanjut ihwal teknis kerja sama tersebut. Tempo sudah berupaya menghubungi pihak Hendropriyono, termasuk asistennya yang bernama Ade Mustika, tapi belum mendapat respons. Very Happy

sorii nih gan gue nglempar berita dimari buat diskusi bau2 politik sii, gimana si pendapat kalian tentang isi berita tersebut dari sisi politik dan hukum gan... bounce bounce Razz
Back to top Go down
View user profile
.
Retired
Retired


Posts : 2660
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:35 pm

Asiknya dukung koalisi tanpa syarat, begitu menang ditunjuk jadi produsen mobnas sampe presiden bela2in keluar negeri buat saksikan penandatanganan kesepakatan LOL LOL...

Penunjukan langsung selama gak keluar uang APBN gpp, tp ini mobnas bakal dpt banyak insentif seperti tax holiday dgn dalih mobnas dll kan? Ada unsur keuangan negara juga dong? KPPU dan KPK harus usut tuh, tp wait, KPK lagi dibunuh presiden anjing dan kejaksaan agung dikuasai anjingnya si brewok sementara kepolisian dikuasai orangnya Edo, si Badrodin Haiti dan Budi Waseso LOL LOL
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://lawyers.forumotion.net
.
Retired
Retired


Posts : 2660
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:52 pm

Better to just close Proton down. It is solely because of Proton that for 30 years, 30 million people in Malaysia suffer. Everybody’s biggest payment per month is their cars as we are paying overpriced cars because of the Protectionism given to Proton.
You see, in the 80s or even in the early 90s, you can get a brand new Nissan 130Y or a Toyota Corolla for RM20,000. Now, the same car is RM139,000.
In truth, the past 30 years, car prices have come down a lot and have not gone up due to inflation. It has come down due to economies of scale. This is proven by the fact that you can get a brand new purely Japan made top spec Toyota Camry 2.5 with 9 airbags in the US for US$22,000. That is about RM60,000. The normal B segment car like the Almera is sold in the US for US$9,999. (RM30,000). Mind you, this is after Toyota and Nissan of the US has made their margin and profits and the US government has collected taxes and duties from Nissan and Toyota. The direct from factory prices is far cheaper. UMW will get the above 2.5 Camry for US$15,000 from their principal in Japan. As our Camry is CKD, the price is even lower than that.
So, in actual fact, most Malaysians can enjoy cheap and reasonable cars but because of Proton, all the other car prices have been raised up tremendously to protect Proton. Pro Proton pondans will say that even Proton pay duties and taxes but every Malaysian know that MITI has clearly instructed all other car brands to price their cars no less than RM20,000 higher gap than Proton to protect the dying Proton.
Malaysians have already suffered so much. For 30 years, 30 million people suffer so much. We struggle paying for our high car prices all because of Proton. And it will suck all our money dry. Every now and then, Proton will ask our money to support the company.
In 1985, Proton was conceived to lessen the burden of the rakyat. That was the speech Mahathir gave on that launch day. If so, why do Proton cars get higher interest rates?
It looks like Proton is not to benefit the rakyat. Infact, besides making the rakyat suffer, Proton bleeds the rakyat. Every year, Proton gets hundreds of million of taxpayers money as form of research grants to keep the company afloat. Last year, Proton even asked the government to give them 2 billion ringgit. Government said no in a sandiwara show. But we know, they will get the money quietly. Now, they are openly asking even more for the Research and Development. How long must we Malaysians suffer? Isn’t 30 years of free money into Proton coffers enough?
Proton also cost us hundreds of billions in ringgit in investments from car companies who moved to Thailand and Indonesia. Car companies got fed up with Malaysia’s MITI for protecting Proton and telling other companies what to price their cars. They all moved their operations to Thailand making it the AutoCity of the world.
Recently GM announced that they rolled out already 1 million cars from Thailand. Imagine if GM was in Malaysia and we taxed GM RM10,000 per car. Calculate that with 1 million cars. Just from GM alone, we lost Billions in USD. That is just one company. Imagine all the different car brands from Cadillac, Ford, Buick, VW etc
Because of Proton, we lost hundreds of billion of ringgit in investment and trillions of ringgit from jobs lost. If Malaysia was the autocity of Asia, hundreds of thousands of jobs would have been created for Malaysians. In the 80s and 90s, we were heading to be the Detroit of Asia. Everybody wanted to CKD in Malaysia. We lost all that. Trillions.
Close down Proton. Open Malaysia back again to all the car manufacturers. They prefer Malaysians as opposed to Thais because Malaysians can speak well and are more intelligent. We will see billions, of not trillions flow into our economy vs to now, where Proton is just sucking our money.
Time to close Proton down. It is a waste of of taxpayers money supporting an organisation that loses money every year and sucks our tax payers money daily
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://lawyers.forumotion.net
PIKOLO
Legal Assistant
Legal Assistant


Posts : 126
Join date : 2012-02-08

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:48 pm

Gue mpe Ga ngerti si MOU kmaren tuh jatuhnya G to G atau antar company doang?

Prsiden mpe hadir loh, bener lo gan jangan2 di kedok doang mob nas dapat tax holiday

Lagian ni pt sejak kapan si indro punya perusahaan mobil pak? Gampang bgtbsi proton prcayabma ni perusahaan, web nya aja kagak ada...

Gw ketik nama PT adiperkasa citra ini di google yg muncul brita mou proton smuua, brrti ni PT blum pernah ngapa2in...curiga si

Kalau di forum ni ada notary cek dong PT ini
Back to top Go down
View user profile
.
Retired
Retired


Posts : 2660
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:38 pm

Skrg notaris uda gak bisa cek PT di sisminbakum lagi, harus ke kemenkumham langsung, ato ke website BNRI, cuma bisa cek dokumen terakhir yang dimasukan ke kumham sih...tp lumayan daripada lu manyun What a Face

Kyknya B to B dgn dukungan dari belakang berupa G to G juga...gimanapun proton anak emas malaysia dan didukung terus oleh pemerintah malaysia dan Hendropriyono, yah gak usa disebut semua uda tau kedudukan dia di mata Jokowi...
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://lawyers.forumotion.net
bane
Darth
Darth


Posts : 3573
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:49 am

Proton tuh masi ada saham di lotus ga sih?
Back to top Go down
View user profile
PIKOLO
Legal Assistant
Legal Assistant


Posts : 126
Join date : 2012-02-08

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:47 am

Masih kayaknya di lotus...

Orang pada kaget knapa si indro bisa punya perusahaan mobil2an,
Back to top Go down
View user profile
.
Retired
Retired


Posts : 2660
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:13 am

Wajar toh? Mantu dapat danpaspampres, anak dapat telkomsel, trus si indro dpt mega proyek What a Face
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://lawyers.forumotion.net
bane
Darth
Darth


Posts : 3573
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:37 am

Anak telkomsel pada nangis, cop nantinya proton... bahahahaha
Back to top Go down
View user profile
.
Retired
Retired


Posts : 2660
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:34 pm

LOL LOL LOL.....
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://lawyers.forumotion.net
nomnomnomnom
Partner
Partner


Posts : 2132
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:35 pm

. wrote:
They prefer Malaysians as opposed to Thais because Malaysians can speak well and are more intelligent.
anjir pongah amat tu malaysian shit stain...

bane wrote:
Anak telkomsel pada nangis, cop nantinya proton... bahahahaha

kasian amat drunken
Back to top Go down
View user profile
PIKOLO
Legal Assistant
Legal Assistant


Posts : 126
Join date : 2012-02-08

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:36 am

anjirr gw baru tau Telkomsel dapat doi juga....bangsaatt
Back to top Go down
View user profile
.
Retired
Retired


Posts : 2660
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:50 am

Baru tau? makanya pasti nyesel gak dukung koalisi tanpa syarat dan tanpa pamrih :p
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://lawyers.forumotion.net
LegalCommpli
Legal Assistant
Legal Assistant


Posts : 37
Join date : 2014-03-11

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:36 am

Hahaha jokowi jokowi. Yg parah rakyatnya pada gak sadar sdar. Cuma yg kritis dan berpendidikan aja yg nyadar. Yg ahli dan pinter tp pemilih jokowi pada malu buat bilang nyesel. Cuih

Kenapa proton? Agya dan ayla aja udh tinggi kan kandungan lokalnya. Terus acara signing kemaren terburu buru banget. Keliatan dr spanduk di belakang yg bertuliskan Indonesian National Car itu jelek bgt kaya terpal pecel lele.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
cimot
Legal Assistant
Legal Assistant


Posts : 53
Join date : 2012-07-29

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:00 am

Emank proton bagus ya? Gw sih jujur ogah make proton. Terlepas dari bagus ato tidaknya, tapi kurang sudi aja make buatan malingsia

Jangan2 ada main juga tuh tetangga disini hahaha
Back to top Go down
View user profile
bane
Darth
Darth


Posts : 3573
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:50 pm

Gw ga habis pikir, instead of pake pt kosong abal-abal, kenapa ga set up new company aja ya?
Back to top Go down
View user profile
nomnomnomnom
Partner
Partner


Posts : 2132
Join date : 2010-04-28

PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:50 pm

cimot wrote:
Emank proton bagus ya? Gw sih jujur ogah make proton. Terlepas dari bagus ato tidaknya, tapi kurang sudi aja make buatan malingsia

Jangan2 ada main juga tuh tetangga disini hahaha

not bad si sebenernya buat standar indonesia yg terbiasa dengan kaleng xeniavanza and gay alay

bane wrote:
Gw ga habis pikir, instead of pake pt kosong abal-abal, kenapa ga set up new company aja ya?

buru2 si gw rasa. entah kenapa buru2nya...
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)   Today at 1:28 pm

Back to top Go down
 
AM Hendro Priyono tandatangani MOU Mobil Nasional ma Proton Malysia (Minta pendapat dari sudut pandang Hukum ma Politik)
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Iraqi official: Exxon Mobil will invest $ 1.65 billion West Qurna 1 field
» Is there a mobile java application of CDAX or Direct FN
» Kurdistan: Exxon Mobil, Chevron Jaddedta commitment Ptaakedathma us
» Exxon Mobil signed a contract to build an oil pipeline worth 90 million dollars to Iraq
» Sheikh Jamal al-Dari, the Foreign Minister of Germany: We want you to have an active role in resolvi

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Warung Hukum  :: Lounge :: Lex Constitutum-
Jump to: